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RE: Pre-emptive Apocalypse Thread (trump edition) [OFFICIAL] - fat lesbian - 09-23-2017
did you ever stop to consider that might be an issue and that it might be a reason that you don’t know as much as you think you do
RE: Pre-emptive Apocalypse Thread (trump edition) [OFFICIAL] - Kentucky Fried - 09-23-2017
but doesn't the same go for you
RE: Pre-emptive Apocalypse Thread (trump edition) [OFFICIAL] - fat lesbian - 09-23-2017
do you have any idea how fucking stupid that sounds
RE: Pre-emptive Apocalypse Thread (trump edition) [OFFICIAL] - fat lesbian - 09-23-2017
“ummm don’t you think western propaganda affects that you think that the public image of the dprk is formed by western propaganda” like, are you actually dumb or do you just not think
RE: Pre-emptive Apocalypse Thread (trump edition) [OFFICIAL] - Kentucky Fried - 09-23-2017
no i don't
don't you build your opinion around biased sources as well
RE: Pre-emptive Apocalypse Thread (trump edition) [OFFICIAL] - fat lesbian - 09-23-2017
what do you think my opinion is beyond “you don’t know what you’re talking about” moron
RE: Pre-emptive Apocalypse Thread (trump edition) [OFFICIAL] - fat lesbian - 09-23-2017
do you also think stalin killed 11 trillion people let’s just see if you believe literal nazi propaganda while we’re at it since you fall for us propaganda hook line and sinker
RE: Pre-emptive Apocalypse Thread (trump edition) [OFFICIAL] - Kentucky Fried - 09-23-2017
don't you think all sources regarding this are in a way biased
why are the ones biased towards your opinion closer to the truth
RE: Pre-emptive Apocalypse Thread (trump edition) [OFFICIAL] - Kentucky Fried - 09-23-2017
i don't think anyone will ever know the full truth about matters like these
in the end everyone is allowed to have their own opinion about it
RE: Pre-emptive Apocalypse Thread (trump edition) [OFFICIAL] - risbolla - 09-23-2017
how come u give donald DRUMPF the nuclear codes nd he doesnt even use the nukes ?theres shit ton of countrys in dire need of getting nukes nd U S A has like 1000000 nukes
RE: Pre-emptive Apocalypse Thread (trump edition) [OFFICIAL] - risbolla - 09-23-2017
i curse nukes !! im against nuclear prolifteration cos all this idiot countrys who worship nukes now are to much pussys to fight each other nd saving probly 100s of millions of human lives
RE: Pre-emptive Apocalypse Thread (trump edition) [OFFICIAL] - risbolla - 09-23-2017
news flash theres more then 7000000000 3d ppl on the earth alive right now nd not one country with nukes is gonna do nething about it that should set off ur apocolypse alarms right now the earths in big trouble unless something like 9 out of 10 ppl are killed off soon
RE: Pre-emptive Apocalypse Thread (trump edition) [OFFICIAL] - grue - 09-23-2017
(09-23-2017, 04:35 PM)Kentucky Fried Wrote: i don't think anyone will ever know the full truth about matters like these
in the end everyone is allowed to have their own opinion about it
there's a big issue here with selective information. it's the broader narrative and it's so brute-forced and hammered into the collective understanding of world politics that I can't really blame people hating th DPRK this way, but consider this
a) the DPRK is on all accounts a military dictatorship, so obviously one should have solidarity with the north koreans as an opressed people
b) however, rarely are arguments in solidarity of the DPRK about liberating north koreans, instead they are mostly about how north korea has "no democracy", a "violent political system" and like you said widespread "human rights violations"
c) these - and here's the kicker - are usually placed in opposition with western nations who are, "despite their flaws", at least "better"
now I could do this with pretty much any european country but I'll focus on the USA for this
1) all of the "good things" in the USA are selective. you know, the whole white rich hetero cismale privilege spiel? well it goes beyond identity politics. thee USA is only not a violent nation filled with human rights violations and little to no democracy when considering only privileged groups;
2) in fact if you're on the wrong side of power the USA is brutal. human violations within US soil abound - from denying healthcare to the poor to mass incarceration of minorities; you have forced labour camps, widespread exploration of groups who are denied basic citiznship ("illegals"), racism and sexism on a systhematic level...
3) and this is focusing on what happens on american soil. if you step outside of american soil you'll see a rich history of genocide, political censorship and assassination, rape, fraud and an organized, persistent effort to overthrow democratically elected governments who don't gel with american interests
4) some shining beacon of democracy "despite its flaws", right?
5) the point is, if I want, I can describe the USA under the same light as everyone describes the DPRK. Doesn't mean that it's the same and of course if I had a choice I would much rather live in the US - but that is, assuming I'm legal and have a reasonably paying job.
And this should give you pause, especially when Trump just threatened genoide in the UN main stage and everyone's response seems to be "haha what a dofus!". Now you're right that might is right, but that doesn't mean we should be complacent about it. You can analise shit critically andd not feed into the discourse. That's a great start.
RE: Pre-emptive Apocalypse Thread (trump edition) [OFFICIAL] - Kentucky Fried - 09-23-2017
i'm aware that the us is not a shining beacon of democracy as you described it and i agree
i never wanted to say it was
but the us is still a country where the powers keep each other in check at least mostly as far as i'm aware
RE: Pre-emptive Apocalypse Thread (trump edition) [OFFICIAL] - Kentucky Fried - 09-23-2017
the discussions was about nukes in the beginning right