What Are You Playing This Month v.May

[Ben]

that's what the first post is but i guess ill repeat myself for your convenience. the writing is better. the setting is better. the mechanical changes are better (certain skills, skill checks, etc). the characters, including the player character, are better. the factions are better. the plot is better. the choices (and i use the word choices loosely for the bullshit 3 gave us) are better. the dlcs are better. it actually sticks to the canon of the fallout universe. it sticks to the aesthetic of the fallout universe better. im not going into full detail on all these things. those aspects of the game are just better aspects. the game is done more good. everything about it is just better. i don't know what the fuck you want.

EVERY quest is better. EVERY character is better.

ok i bolded all the things that i wanted. specific examples

here is a tip for any reviewers out there: if i can replace the title of the thing youre reviewing to the title of any other thing and it still is coherent, it's a shallow review. example:

"galaga is really bad! the controls suck and i dont like it. also the colors are dumb" -> "infamous: second son is really bad! the controls suck and i dont like it. also the colors are dumb" --- BORING
"galaga is really bad! the concept of a space ship shooting at entities at the top is just space invaders, and the 8-bit visuals doesnt really hold up well at all" ->

"infamous: second son is really bad! the concept of a space ship shooting at entities at the top is just space invaders, and the 8-bit visuals doesnt really hold up well at all"

you see, the second statement makes no sense because the details and examples ive brought up dont match. if you say "____ is a stinky doo doo game and fuck shit fuck youre dumb and i hate it" isnt an interesting contribution

[Ben]

also john i can feel very differently about things that are actually described. im interested in the case study of these games but it's hard to get all into it when others' opinions are "ya the characters are better" with no example or description. not even a favorite moment, or a poignant example of where a game failed. this is where posts get cool and interesting and insightful and "the characters are better better better" is not helpful to anyone

[tool]

hate to say it but nikis rite

i played both games a lot, in order, and NV did everything a little bit better

fo3 is still ok though, not 'unplayable'

[tool]

Noone liked new vegas when it came out, nerds said it was just more of 3 and it got mediocre scores

only heard people change their tune when fo4 came out

That's not true at all

NV failed to meet the Bethesda 1st year metascore targets to earn Obsidian royalties

that's true at least, don't know how to prove that nerds changed their opinions but its my experience

[fat lesbian]

oh my god not every fucking opinion on a forum needs to be a case study with x and y examples and a fucking control group dude. ok. you want one better character? Boone. he's one of the worst characters in the game and is written with more depth than any fallout 3 character. want one better quest? fucking fine. the ending quest for yes man. it gives you actual choices to make with an actual effect on the wasteland and you have to choose who to fuck over for the greater good unlike 3s blatant good v evil choice. happy?

[Ben]

yes i am thanks for raising your standards to the level of any other human for at least one post

[fat lesbian]

people don't owe you an explanation for why they don't like something ben. people are allowed to think one thing is better than another without having to write an essay about why. expecting everyone to do so isn't human standards

[Ben]

yes i am aware, you are always welcome to leave with your own thoughts and not be questioned. if you choose to post, however, i expect it to have some substance because this is a forum for discussion. there is a large difference between "an essay" or a "case study" and a post that has substance. i happen to like elaborate explanations because of a vague mental standing, but i dont expect that much out of anyone

[Ben]

more simply, this is a forum for opinions so though you arent forced to express it you will be encouraged to discuss if you do. if you cant stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen

[GeorgeBubbinzInSpace]

*drops mouse*

[Tempest]

hey stop fucking arguing in my forum

[grue]

idk ben if both games are similar but one executes the same thing in a better way, yah it's subjective but if the vast majority of people's subjective opinions line up, then that subjectiveness gains weight

I tried playing f3 once and I gave up a couple hours in. I will complain about it knowing well that these characteristics are actually what fallout was about but anywho:

- I pirated it. that's a big issue because I just got the game as is and I had no idea of what I was getting into. I'm saying this because one of the reasons for my frustration, as it turns out, is that I went straight for some advanced DLC, and I had no idea what was going on.
- other than that, the main thing that annoys me about fallout is the constant breaks in action. in my mind I was playing an fps, or at least an fps-like game. everytime the game forced me out of that gameplay it was incredibly annoying. some egregious examples were:
--- "taking over" my controls to stare at a character that interrupted me to talk
--- VATs
--- aiming at something and shooting at the moon instead, because I didn't want VATs
--- walls of "mandatory" text

VATs made sense to me when playing Fallout 2. I honestly don't get the appeal of choosing where the bullet is likely to hit rather than aiming it yourself in a first-person game. as for the walls of text, I wouldn't have a problem with them normally but I remember being annoyed by how lengthy the reading times in the game were, which again plays against the fact that I'm piloting a first-person thing.

with the added problems off me not enjoying the asthetic at all and the controls being meh, I just didn''t like fallout 3 and I can't be bothered to play nv or f4 instead because I see that those mechanics are still there, so it's not the game for me

[fat lesbian]

ben ive been over exactly why i don't like 3 and do like new vegas with you specifically. ive discussed it on the forum and off it with you individually. i shouldn't have to detail every reason again and again every time this conversation is rehashed for some reason. no one else is expected to detail specific reasons of why they like 3 more than nv so like. side eye emoji

[fat lesbian]

grue at least you didn't play 3 before broken steel like i did. "sorry lol i know im a SUPER MUTANT THAT IS HEALED BY RADIATION AND ALL but you have to go in the chamber and die from radiation bc like, destiny or whatever lol"

[grue]

I tried to get into the story but the moment the cast of Grease met me in the hallway for some rough'n'tumble my attention started to wane