03-31-2019, 03:31 AM
hm
you're contradicting yourself? "we need the people who are already part of the system" vs "why trust big daddy government"
I don't claim that Pelosi & Co are incompetent in the sense that they don't understand how government works. it's not a matter of technical competence because even a fascist can be "competent" on this lens. I do say they are buffoons in the sense that they've been in ~the system~ for way too long to not understand that they are at least indirectly responsible for the current trumpism. I'm saying that they don't stray very far to the left of him. that they stood benefitting from the same system that is now protecting him for many years. they had all this time to put comprehensive policy into work and they simply didn't.
oh, suddenly healthcare is important? I don't believe so, it's not a new issue. In fact the only reason why things like healrthcare, climate change etc are being - very reluctantly - being supported by a lot of dems is exactly that these people that you think are incompetent demagogues have brought it to the center stage and made them unavoidable. also unavoidable is that rather than look into these very popular policies, and employing those Very Competent Totally Not Demagogues to the fray about it, they would instead try go the (shudder) Orange Man Bad route
who freaking knew that a millionaire white man in the republican party - freaking President - would have the weight of the judicial sector to protect him???
(Also a hypothetical new party could still work with Pelosi. like it happens on every other country except america, different parties collaborate and draft joint policy when they align on certain issues)
and Ben demanding that the government.... governs... is exactly avoiding the big dady state problem. demanding accountability is democratic? ish? my problem is not that people are different, but that the american system (specifically) is open and brazenly rigged. and the two parties that have been in power - for what? over a century? - have been directly a part of that rigged system. and also that even though I could see Bernie's point that he would rather break it from within, looking at what's happening in these primaries is making me seriously doubt that it would ever be possible
you're contradicting yourself? "we need the people who are already part of the system" vs "why trust big daddy government"
I don't claim that Pelosi & Co are incompetent in the sense that they don't understand how government works. it's not a matter of technical competence because even a fascist can be "competent" on this lens. I do say they are buffoons in the sense that they've been in ~the system~ for way too long to not understand that they are at least indirectly responsible for the current trumpism. I'm saying that they don't stray very far to the left of him. that they stood benefitting from the same system that is now protecting him for many years. they had all this time to put comprehensive policy into work and they simply didn't.
oh, suddenly healthcare is important? I don't believe so, it's not a new issue. In fact the only reason why things like healrthcare, climate change etc are being - very reluctantly - being supported by a lot of dems is exactly that these people that you think are incompetent demagogues have brought it to the center stage and made them unavoidable. also unavoidable is that rather than look into these very popular policies, and employing those Very Competent Totally Not Demagogues to the fray about it, they would instead try go the (shudder) Orange Man Bad route
who freaking knew that a millionaire white man in the republican party - freaking President - would have the weight of the judicial sector to protect him???
(Also a hypothetical new party could still work with Pelosi. like it happens on every other country except america, different parties collaborate and draft joint policy when they align on certain issues)
and Ben demanding that the government.... governs... is exactly avoiding the big dady state problem. demanding accountability is democratic? ish? my problem is not that people are different, but that the american system (specifically) is open and brazenly rigged. and the two parties that have been in power - for what? over a century? - have been directly a part of that rigged system. and also that even though I could see Bernie's point that he would rather break it from within, looking at what's happening in these primaries is making me seriously doubt that it would ever be possible
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