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Pre-emptive Apocalypse Thread (trump edition) [OFFICIAL]
(09-23-2017, 04:35 PM)Kentucky Fried Wrote: i don't think anyone will ever know the full truth about matters like these
in the end everyone is allowed to have their own opinion about it

there's a big issue here with selective information. it's the broader narrative and it's so brute-forced and hammered into the collective understanding of world politics that I can't really blame people hating th DPRK this way, but consider this

a) the DPRK is on all accounts a military dictatorship, so obviously one should have solidarity with the north koreans as an opressed people
b) however, rarely are arguments in solidarity of the DPRK about liberating north koreans, instead they are mostly about how north korea has "no democracy", a "violent political system" and like you said widespread "human rights violations"
c) these  - and here's the kicker - are usually placed in opposition with western nations who are, "despite their flaws", at least "better"

now I could do this with pretty much any european country but I'll focus on the USA for this

1) all of the "good things" in the USA are selective. you know, the whole white rich hetero cismale privilege spiel? well it goes beyond identity politics. thee USA is only not a violent nation filled with human rights violations and little to no democracy when considering only privileged groups;
2) in fact if you're on the wrong side of power the USA is brutal. human violations within US soil abound - from denying healthcare to the poor to mass incarceration of minorities; you have forced labour camps, widespread exploration of groups who are denied basic citiznship ("illegals"), racism and sexism on a systhematic level...
3) and this is focusing on what happens on american soil. if you step outside of american soil you'll see a rich history of genocide, political censorship and assassination, rape, fraud and an organized, persistent effort to overthrow democratically elected governments who don't gel with american interests
4) some shining beacon of democracy "despite its flaws", right?
5) the point is, if I want, I can describe the USA under the same light as everyone describes the DPRK. Doesn't mean that it's the same and of course if I had a choice I would much rather live in the US - but that is, assuming I'm legal and have a reasonably paying job.

And this should give you pause, especially when Trump just threatened genoide in the UN main stage and everyone's response seems to be "haha what a dofus!". Now you're right that might is right, but that doesn't mean we should be complacent about it. You can analise shit critically andd not feed into the discourse. That's a great start.
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RE: Pre-emptive Apocalypse Thread (trump edition) [OFFICIAL] - by grue - 09-23-2017, 06:04 PM

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